Posted: 10:26 am Wednesday, April 23rd, 2014

Tech planning to keep spring game on Friday 

By Ken Sugiura

Georgia Tech does not plan to move away from its Friday night spring games.

For the second consecutive year, attendance was down, but weather played a large factor in both scrimmages.

“I don’t think it’s a Friday thing,” said Rick Thorpe, associate athletic director for sales and fan experience. “I think it’s a weather thing.”

Last Friday, heavy rain and winds pelted the fans who made it to Bobby Dodd Stadium. No official attendance was given, but my estimate was about 1,500. It was pretty miserable. Last year, it was about 5,000 on a particularly cool night and while the rain held off, the threat of it forced the cancellation of pregame activities and presumably kept fans away.

However, in 2012, the first year of the Friday night spring game, attendance was about 18,000 when conditions were ideal. It’s possible that the Friday night strategy has run its course, but I’d think it would be worth testing that theory against a pleasant evening and not a monsoon.

Spring games in general have not been well-attended at Tech, even on Saturday. In 2009, following coach Paul Johnson’s first season, attendance was 8,500. It was about 7,000 in 2011. (I can’t find a report from the 2010 game. But that game was called at halftime due to lightning, so I’m guessing it wasn’t 55,000.) In 1991, the year after the national championship season, attendance was 5,191, although the game was delayed an hour due to storms.

122 comments
Born2Buzz
Born2Buzz

First off, we will never get 30,000 to the spring game.  18,000 was an incredible number to draw.  GT folks tend to have better things to do than watch a scrimmage game, especially on a nice spring Saturday afternoon.  I've been a season ticket holder for 30 years and have never gone to the spring game.  I did consider it on the first Friday affair.


Second, the rain was a big factor on the small numbers and the GTAA has no control on that, but having it on Good Friday was in GTAA's control and that was a mistake.  Next year, do not schedule this event on Easter weekend and maybe more people will attend.

GTBee
GTBee

Myth...Peachtree St in front if the Varsity???? Your geography a bit off.

GTBee
GTBee

1500 - an embarrassment of riches. We did use to win Thur nite games b4 Johnson. Clemson WAS our last upset. USC....please. They were a train wreck. Johnson is like 4-20 vs Clemson, UGA, VT and Miami. He and our football program are awful!@

The Myth
The Myth

As stated previously if the fans want come to us let's take the Spring Game to them. 


We can block off Peachtree St. in front of the Varsity and hold a live scrimmage.


See you next year on Friday night.

Birmingham__Jacket
Birmingham__Jacket

Things went downhill when the nerds on The Hill overreacted to Flunk Gate, and decided it would be in Georgia Tech's best interests to never be competitive at football, ever again.

HarveyPooka
HarveyPooka

No need to eliminate Thursday night games from regular season.  When GT started them, we were doing well and receiving the benefit from them.  Got to get TEAM back to winning level and present positive image.

Birmingham__Jacket
Birmingham__Jacket

Spring games are pretty meaningless anyway, for every program.  I don't think it matters when they are played.  The schemes run by both the offense and defense are very vanilla, so as not to disclose tape that opponents can use for preparation.  The game is played to simply work on fundamentals.

I would like to eliminate Thursday night games, however.  We don't play well in them, for whatever reasons.  And they have a negative impact to the program, in general.



GTLee
GTLee

if anyone hasn't heard, the GT-Mercer game (rained out last night) is being played tonight at the Rusty C.....admission is FREE. Should be a good baseball game. Go Jackets!

BigCrimson75
BigCrimson75

Why can't y'all be like every other rational Program in the Country & play your Spring game on a Saturday?

What's the problem!?

The more GT tries to be "different", the worse GT looks.

I simply no longer grasp the thought process of the GT Athletic Dept. any longer.


SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

I thought that last year was the first time it was held on Friday night.  Apparently I am incorrect

juvenal
juvenal

live in the sticks, the reason they play HS Friday, it's local, Saturday is when you go to town, none of the fans here going to the ATL for much of anything then..........myself, we have Church every Friday at 7PM (except 1st Fridays), Good Friday not a party day, we do fasting & abstinence.........

sportsnut
sportsnut

@Richard, YOU MORON, I don't know about Bama's spring game, but at UGA, you were not charged to see the game, OOPS, practice, you were asked to bring can goods for the needy if you wished. Hope you enjoyed the food, that the MORONS gave you.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

One of the things that keeps getting left out of this was that it was Good Friday.  Passion City Church in ATL has its annual Good Friday Service with Louie Giglio and Chris Tomlin.  I know several other ATL churches have big services that night as well.  I am sure that hurt attendance.  I know it resulted in the 7 people of my family not driving up last Friday.

juvenal
juvenal

yeah-new APR standards, which cost us scholies under both chan & phew had nothing to do with it(ask uconn about how much fun it was missing the dance).....

GTQBdefender
GTQBdefender

@Birmingham__Jacket

I am curious Tech's Thrusday night record before Paul Johnson and after.

I think we have done well in these games until it became VT vs GT every year.

Like with Uga, Johnson has one win vs VT.

Georgia Tech used to be capable of pulling off the upset in football.

Not since beating Clemson in 2011 have we done so.

No upsets = no fun.

GTBob
GTBob

@BigCrimson75  I said earlier that I prefer the game on Saturday. It's more convenient for me but it's hard to argue with this:

2009 Spring game (Saturday): 8500 attendance
2011 Spring game (Saturday): 7000 attendance
2012 Spring game (Friday): 18000 attendance

They tried something different and it seemed to work. It makes total sense to keep doing it.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@BigCrimson75  "I simply no longer grasp the thought process of the GT Athletic Dept. any longer."

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From the rambling tenor of your posts, I think there are a lot of thought processes you fail to grasp.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@SupersizeThatOrder-mutt  2012 was.  Drew 18,000 people.  Last year drew 5,000 on a cold night where pregame events were canceled due to storms.  This year drew 1,500-2,000 on a cold rainy Good Friday.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@AugustaJacket  

Please attempt to tell us WHY the folks at the GTAA are not smart enough to account for Good Friday and choose a better day/time slot?

Birmingham__Jacket
Birmingham__Jacket

Funny how you never hear these kinds of issues happening at Alabama, Auburn, UGA, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Virginia Tech or Clemson, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma or Texas or Stanford or Cal....

Kind of makes you wonder why Georgia Tech has an athletic department at all. 

Georgia Tech is really, really pathetic when it comes to athletics.  Don't believe me?  Ask Dan Radakovich.

BigCrimson75
BigCrimson75

"It makes total sense to keep doing it."

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Total sense, eh Bobby?!

Never mind the fact JHC was bolted to a pair of 2×4's when y'all decide to hold your annual "scrimmage".

Show some respect!

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

@AugustaJacket @SupersizeThatOrder-mutt  My bad.  I don't remember the 2012 game, so I apparently didn't go.  I went last year and had planned on going this year.  I would imagine that many fans have already pointed out to the AA that it should never be scheduled on Good Friday (for that matter, not even on Saturday of Easter weekend).  I hope they have anyway.

YellowJacket2000
YellowJacket2000

@MikeBanning @AugustaJacket  The reason GTAA had it that particular day was because they plan Spring Practice to start the week after Spring Break for students.  They then have no choice on when the spring game is because it has to be 4 weeks of practice.  That put is squarely on Easter weekend.  


Next year spring break for GT has not been announced yet but they always do it around 10 weeks into the semester and if we assume the semester starts on 1/5/2015, Spring break will be from March 16th-20th which would put spring practice starting on Monday 3/23/15 and the spring game would be scheduled for Friday 4/17/15.  Easter next year is on 4/5/15, so there should be no issue with Easter next year.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @AugustaJacket  Probably because the people there didn't thik Good Friday was as important as Resurrection Day.  It's a common train of thought, not limited to the GTAA.

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

@Birmingham__Jacket  

Doesn't happen at Georgia ???  You don't remember the entire Jan Kemp affair and Jim Harrick's 3-point-basket exam?  Or more recently the mutt swimming coach arranging for a swimmer to get a passing grade in a course he wasn't even taking?  Time for you to get back on your meds, BJ

BleedingGold
BleedingGold

Whatever excuses you can think of, buddy.  Pretty pathetic though.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @CT_Jacket  You always have a bunch of excuses.  GT beat the preseason #1 team in the nation, who was favored to beat us, and you find any reason to diminish it.  


GT upset USC.  End of story.


#keeptrolling

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@CT_Jacket

At least you are honest enough to admit we beat a team with 48 guys dressed out compared to our 80+.

Regardless of star ranking coming out of HS,  a lot of those guys were True Freshmen, mainly the OT that got their starting QB hurt when he missed a block vs. UCLA.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @AugustaJacket  We were the underdog in the game, playing with a 6-7 record ourselves against a team with a winning record.  Yes, it was an upset.  That is the WHOLE STORY.


#keeptrolling

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@AugustaJacket

Upset?

We "upset" a 5 or 6 loss team that had 25 LESS scholarships, plus they had about 10 guys out due to various injuries, after you add in RSs, that "upset" came vs. a Team that dressed out 50 players or LESS, even D1-AA Teams get 63 schollies.

To call the USCw Bowl win an upset is a real stretch, but this is what we get from the CPJ apologists, you guys always tell ONLY HALF of the real story!

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@GeorgeStein @BigCrimson75  He had to be off the cross before Sundown on Good Friday, as Saturday is the Sabbath.  That's why the guards were asked to break the legs of the thieves crucified next to Him.  (John 19:31-33)  


Most Biblical Scholars agree that Jesus Crucifixion began somewhere around 6-9 am in the morning and died somewhere between 12-3 pm in the afternoon.  Jewish time conventions of the day are not similar to Roman timekeeping, which is what we use today.  That also explains the apparent dichotomy between the time in John (Roman) vs the time in Mark.  (Jewish)  


That means that Jesus Crucifixion would have occurred between 11:00 PM Thursday evening to around 8:00 am Friday morning EST.


Sorry, I just taught a Small Group lesson on the crucifixion so I had all this data readily available....  :)

GeorgeStein
GeorgeStein

@BigCrimson75  Actually, most historical accounts (and the Bible itself) say it happened during the afternoon, or several hours before the game.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@BigCrimson75  I find it ironic that a person referring to the Christ as "JHC" is asking others to show respect.

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@juvenal

Ramsey has been the big miss - he is quite a player - second best Welshman on the planet

juvenal
juvenal

Blues did better in Madrid than my Bayern, BC.......Gunners without Ramsey were popgunners, what side losing a Ramsey & a Walcott would not struggle?

GeorgeStein
GeorgeStein

@BigCrimson75  For hoops?  No.   But then I was born in 1981, so that makes sense.   I have, however, attended at least one football game since 1988 and was a Junior Jacket for several years.   

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@BigCrimson75  

I am enjoying it - destroyed the Gunners a couple of weeks ago and embarrassed ManU on Sunday.  Not to mention watching Mourinho's interview on Saturday.  He's already gotten his excuses in for Sunday's game against Liverpool - claims he has to use 2nd teamers because the EPL won't shift the game to Saturday ahead of the 2nd leg against Atletico

BigCrimson75
BigCrimson75

You're right Counselor.....I don't come outta pocket for GT sports, aside from the usual 1 or 2 FB &BB games I attend each year.

In fact, I've attended at least 1 GT BB game every year since 1985(minus maybe 2 or 3 seasons). Can you say the same?

I remember Noodles Neal & Jeff Lebo going at it. I remember Terminator Hammonds taking off from the charity strike posterizing Charles Shackelford! I still own an autographed pigskin inked by Bobby Rodriquez.

Let's don't compare the size of our stingers....for your sake Haas.

BigCrimson75
BigCrimson75

Paul......It's been a disaster this past month or so across the pond. :(

GeorgeStein
GeorgeStein

@BigCrimson75 Well then call the GTAA and tell them you have contributed $0 and are a Bama fan and you want answers.   I'm sure they'll be itching to respond to your demand.

GTRanj
GTRanj

You mean the tough Oregon team who got rocked by auburn a few years back (ted roofs defense BTW)

You are such a troll!

GeorgeStein
GeorgeStein

@MikeBanning Sorry, but the ACC has the national champion, so it's the toughest conference (at least that's been the reasoning the SEC used, so I'm sure it applies for the ACC, too).

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@AugustaJacket @GTBob  

Very weak?

What are you talking about?

For the past 5-7 Years the Pac-12 has been MUCH BETTER than the ACC, and if you look at the Pac-12 from top to bottom they are clearly better than the ACC and was better than the ACC last year despite FSU getting lucky and playing a lucky Auburn  team for the MNC.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @GTBob  Stanford also has the benefit of playing in a currently very weak PAC-12.  When USC and some of the other schools return to their winning ways, Stanford will struggle again.  

GTBob
GTBob

@MikeBanning You are trying to twist this into your usual argument about Stanford being the greatest program of all time. We all know your opinion on that. This discussion was about fan support for the spring game. Stanford even with all of their success has pitiful fan support for their spring game and in the regular season.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@GTBob

But Stanford found a way to compete with and BEAT Oregon, that is a much tougher program than the factories that we lose to (VT, Miami, Clemson, UGA).

So their system works very well for them whereas ours does not work very well for us.

GTBob
GTBob

@MikeBanning Stanford usually gets about 5k for their spring game even in good weather. I'm not sure they are the team you should use as an example of fan support. If they win the next 10 national championships they still won't have 1/10th the fan base or support that the factories do. Why? Because like us, they aren't that kind of school. 

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@GeorgeStein @MikeBanning  Why do you equate spending money on football with intellect?   I can see no real connection between the two.

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THIS!  Of the current ACC lineup, only NCSU has a lower ranking academically than FSU, yet guess which program has the most football success?  It's money, not necessarily tied to intelligence.

GeorgeStein
GeorgeStein

@MikeBanning Why do you equate spending money on football with intellect?   I can see no real connection between the two.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @GTBob  Because most STEM millionaires, which is what GT tends to produce, don't care the least little bit about sports.  


Stanford's endowment has more to do with their current success than their coaching.  It was Stanford's decision to spend money on football that got them where they are.  Same with Oregon and Phil Knight.  If some of GT's alumni would do the same, then we'd reap the benefits as well.  You should be the first to pitch in, since you complain so much.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@AugustaJacket

If it is a common train of thought, then why is GT the only school to make the mistake of playing the SG on Good Friday?

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@GTBob

Well  then we need  to do like the rich ,smart people that we are and simply create an endowment like Stanford did that spits out $25-30MM per year to bolster FB  revenues.

GTBob
GTBob

@MikeBanning They have many more fans and alumni than GT will ever have who have been conditioned since birth to worship their teams. If Alabama had held their spring game in the pouring down rain on Good Friday then they still would have gotten at least 50k in attendance. We aren't that kind of school. It's pointless to compare ourselves to them.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@AugustaJacket

They fund many more non-revenue Sports than GT does,  and they have higher payrolls for coaches across the board in many sports,  so  that margin of error is not as big as you think it is.

Quite simply, they treat their  customers better, and they execute in the CFB marketplace much better than GT does.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@AugustaJacket

Why not look at the Calendar and do like all the other Factories that surround us and find a very good day for the Spring Game rather than finding the worst possible day.


As much as we GT alums like to pick at the Factories for being lesser academic schools than GT, they sure do seem to do many things a LOT smarter than the so-called "smart people" at GT.