Posted: 1:41 am Thursday, April 24th, 2014

Attaochu pegged as second-rounder 

By Ken Sugiura

If draftnik Mel Kiper Jr. is right, this man will be Arizona-bound.

If draftnik Mel Kiper Jr. is correct, this man will be Arizona-bound.

ESPN draft expert Mel Kiper Jr. projects former Georgia Tech defensive end Jeremiah Attaochu to be drafted by the Arizona Cardinals with the 52nd overall pick (20th of the second round) in the NFL draft taking place May 8-10. It would complete a considerable rise since the end of the season, when the Yellow Jackets’ all-time sack leader was seen as more likely to be taken in the fourth round.

“Second round, I think, is a distinct possibility,” Kiper said Wednesday.

Kiper also said that “the great thing about Attaochu is he’s going to help you immediately as a big-time special-teams player. That’s critical, as I said, in the NFL for a guy that’s probably going to be a second-round draft choice.”

Kiper said he saw Attaochu more as an outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme, which is what the Cardinals use, but could also see him as a designated pass rusher in a 4-3 defense.

Kiper also projected former Tech defensive back Jemea Thomas as a late-round selection or possibly a “priority free agent.” He did not have a projection for any other Tech draft hopefuls, such as former linebacker Brandon Watts, who has worked out for multiple NFL teams since Tech’s pro day.

154 comments
BleedingGold
BleedingGold

Anyone else notice that Pat Fitzgerald isn't getting any love from wienie anymore?  Strange......he was praising him into early October and then it just kind of stopped.  Couldn't have had anything to do with it Northwestern losing 7 of its last 8, could it?

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

Is anybody else experiencing formatting problems with the blogs this morning.  Now this window stretches across my entire screen, and what should be the page heading appears now as a one line at a time thing that you have to browse downwards to see.  This has happened several times in the past, regardless of what browser I am using.

D-Sheets
D-Sheets

"another is Qua Searcy that is 5-10 165 pounds soaking wet, and a 4th player is Autry's younger brother that is 5-9 165 pounds soaking wet"

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So, Banning's on this blog railing PJ for signing a 5'10" 165lb kid and a 5'9" 165lb kid while he's on Carvell's blog railing PJ b/c he  DIDN'T sign a 5'10" 165lb kid that just signed with Oregon.    

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

re:

For the record, Baylor got 7 of Texas' top 100.  GT got 7 of Georgia's top 75.  Apparently CPJ can out recruit Art Briles..

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Coach Art Briles has a better distribution for his 7 out of 100 than CPJ's 7 out of 75.

CPJ's 7 of 75 is clustered between #60 to #75, while Briles' recruits are spread out among the Top-100 players in Texas.

Also 2 of GT's 7 of 75 are 5-7 twins that play CB, another is Qua Searcy that is 5-10 165 pounds soaking wet, and a 4th player is Autry's younger brother that is 5-9 165 pounds soaking wet coming off of a major knee injury.

Even though they are "Top-75" players from Ga, they are very small for the BCS level, and I don't have a lot of confidence they will be difference makers.

The next GT HC will do like GOL did when he took over from B*** L**** and ask who recruited all these "small players" ,and will then commit to recruit  bigger players to make GT FB competitive once again.

CPJ's recruiting is a lot worse than you realize!

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning"Imagine how well Art Briles would recruit in the Metro Atlanta Area?

Texas has a much stronger influence among recruits in Texas than does UGA in the Metro Atlanta Area."

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@GeorgeStein "I would LOVE to know how you quantified that.   Elaborate, please

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@MikeBanningBased on how many big time recruits leave the Metro Area and play for UGA's RIVALS."

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In 2014, 50 of Texas' top 100 recruits committed to Out of State Universities.  This, in spite of the fact that Texas has 5 BCS level football programs.  (Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, TCU and Baylor)  Add in SMU and Houston and I'd dare say, based on your completely asinine made up metric, Art Briles is just an ok recruiter.


Please try and use facts.  It would prevent so much stupid on your part....


For the record, Baylor got 7 of Texas' top 100.  GT got 7 of Georgia's top 75.  Apparently CPJ can out recruit Art Briles..

HighTechJacket99
HighTechJacket99

The best thing Al Groh did at Tech was recruit Attaochu.

Birmingham__Jacket
Birmingham__Jacket

I wish we would make an offer to Tim DeRuyter.  Talk about a 180 degree change of course in the offense...

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@BleedingGold  

I'd still rather have CPF than CPJ.

One bad season losing a bunch of games late,  doesn't deter my preference of CPF over CPJ.

With the Academics of Northwestern plus how much tougher Big-Ten FB is from Top to bottom compared to the ACC, combined with how crappy HS FB is in Illinois, then CPF is still one of the up and comers in the coaching ranks.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@BleedingGold  Here's whats interesting about Northwestern under Fitzgerald.  As a whole, they are 55-46 (.545) since he arrived in 2006.  However, their conference mark is 27-37.  (.422)  That tells you that he is making his living off of OOC wins.  Since NW doesn't have a built in top 25 rival to play every year, they get to schedule four cupcakes a year.  Here's a list of some of those teams he has beaten:  Miami (OH) (2x), E Michigan (3x), Northeastern, Nevada, S Illinois, Ohio, Duke (2008 version 4-8), Towson, Vanderbilt (2010 version 2-10), Illinois State, Rice (2x), Cent Michigan, BC (2x) (2011-12 version 4-8 & 2-10), E Illinois, South Dakota, W Michigan and Maine.  22 of his 28 OOC wins have been against the doormats of CFB.  Yet he skewers CPJ for winning against lower competition.  If we take those 22 wins away, Fitz is 33-46 during his tenure.  You don't see WnE pointing out that, however, as it tears the bottom out from under his agenda.


Conversely, CPJ's record since 2008 is 48-32 (.600).  His conference record is 31-17 (.646) and has never had a losing record in ACC play, much less a losing career record.  Yet up until this year, Fitz was one of the "Golden Boys" according to WnE.  


It's simply amazing how someone who professes to be a "College Football Genius" can be so stupid.



MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@D-Sheets  

I didn't complain that we didn't sign him.

I did complain that JacketMan threw the kid under the bus and assumed it was because academics.

Huge difference, but your biased, agenda-driven eyes refuse to see that.

GeorgeStein
GeorgeStein

@MikeBanning  Too bad we can't schedule like your boy, Art Briles.   That game against School of the Incarnate World looks brutal.

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

@MikeBanning  

And Art Briles is nowhere near as good a recruiter as you think.  As usual, you really don't have a clue.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning  ""CPJ's 7 of 75 is clustered between #60 to #75,"

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Three of CPJ's recruits are "clustered" between #61 & #66.  None are ranked lower than 66, 4 are ranked higher than 60.  


Please quit lying.  It hurts what little credibility you have left.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning  "CPJ's 7 of 75 is clustered between #60 to #75, while Briles' recruits are spread out among the Top-100 players in Texas."

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Then how about this:  Outside of the two recruits in the top 10, one of which is 5'10" 163, Baylor's are all ranked below 48th.  That's not real distribution.  Also, Baylor only has 6 recruits in the top 75, whereas GT has 7.  


Secondly, please document a source that lists the twins at 5'7" tall.  Every source I have ranges from 5'9" to 5'11" on their height.


AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning  "Also 2 of GT's 7 of 75 are 5-7 twins that play CB, another is Qua Searcy that is 5-10 165 pounds soaking wet, and a 4th player is Autry's younger brother that is 5-9 165 pounds soaking wet coming off of a major knee injury."

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Baylor recruits:  KD Canon  5'10" 163, V Vaughns 5'9" 168, C Platt 5'10" 157, C Waz 5'10" 173, T Wright 5'10" 175.


Guess Art Briles doesn't know how to recruit, either....



HighTechJacket99
HighTechJacket99

Maybe I'll start posting some messages from John Patrick Mason's (Wrecksneffect) Twitter page just to see how long it takes for my post to be deleted.

HighTechJacket99
HighTechJacket99

Since you would like Roof to be the HC, who should he hire for OC?

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@Birmingham__Jacket

DeRuyter has spent all of his career as an assistant on the defensive side of the ball.  He has been HC for 2 years - and he inherited a QB who will be drafted this year.  Let's see what DeRuyter does in the next couple of years.

I'd guess the extent of your "scouting" of DeRuyter was looking at passing stats for the last 2 years

Birmingham__Jacket
Birmingham__Jacket

Anything to get rid of the triple option....

I would almost rather watch Reggie Ball throw balls into crowd on 4th down and throw interceptions.

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

@MikeBanning  

I'm sure Northwestern has the same assortment of jock courses that every other UNIVERSITY, INCLUDING STANFORD, has.  If you think all those jocks at those schools are taking the courses for which those UNIVERSITIES are noted, you are a bigger fool than I thought you were.  And don't tell me that Tech has those courses too, because we don't.  Sure, there are a few courses at Tech that most of the jocks, as well as a lot of other students take, there is no catalog of such courses, as there was at Stanford till it was discovered.  Tech certainly doesn't offer Native American Dance and silly crap like that.   AND YOU KNOW IT !!!

GTLee
GTLee

What's " Golden Boy Fitzgerald's" 2014 recruiting class ranked? 68th? So he's also a worse recruiter than CPJ......

Anything to trash GT and CPJ, right WeeNiE/Banning?

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @D-Sheets  I read that post.  JacketMan never said it was because of academics in that particular case.  You just get jealous every time JacketMan posts because MC has said he knows what he's talking about.  


Your reading comprehension is abysmal.


#keeptrolling  

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@AugustaJacket

You're delusional!

Not one recruiting site lists those Twins at 5-11!

If they were 5-11 playing CB, then Spurrier at USC-Jr. would not have stopped recruiting them, or they would have signed with another school in the SEC.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@AugustaJacket

Recruiting small, fast guys for a SPREAD-PASSING-ATTACK works a lot better than recruiting small guys for an offense where you RUN 90% of the time!

Nice try, no cigar!

HighTechJacket99
HighTechJacket99

Not a coincidence at all. Whenever I show up, my posts start getting flagged as Spam by you.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @HighTechJacket99  In fairness, though, someone WAS spamming the snot out of Gt79.  (Even though he was spamming the blogs, I still don't agree with the practice either way)

juvenal
juvenal

why would he delete a post he responded to? can't be me, not comp savvy & would not learn just to do it........

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @HighTechJacket99  and every time YOU show up, a teenager on Twitter isn't in danger of being trolled.  So, I guess there is that benefit to dealing with your blatant lies....


#keeptrolling

GTBob
GTBob

@Birmingham__Jacket  Does watching the triple option really bother you so much that you would rather have a worse offense and probably a worse team? If so, that is some pretty hard core hatred for an offensive philosophy.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @AugustaJacket  Yet the recruit in question is a RUNNING BACK.  Sure, they will pass to him, but they will also hand it off to him as well.  Keep trying, troll....

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@AugustaJacket

Oregon passes 2 to 3 times as much as GT does, and given the number of times they have blowout scores, that is saying something.

Once again, you interpret incorrectly!

juvenal
juvenal

i would like an O assistant to look at a computer print out of D tendencies to try something that works on crucial, close-big-game 3rd downs, so they work more often than not........(sounds like hurry-up, & not wasting time on formations he does not trust already might be under construction)

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

@Gt79  

So tell us, oh all-knowing one, just what IS your plan for Ga Tech football, and how do you propose we get there?  And don't just say "get rid of Johnson."  I want specifics.  Since he has the 2nd highest winning percentage of any Tech coach since Dodd, just what DO you want? You can't build a rocket to the moon if you don't know where the moon is or how to build a rocket to begin with

juvenal
juvenal

oh, only first comment refered to me, threw me becasue names/posts order reversed...never mind, as the phone lady said......

juvenal
juvenal

mois? innocent? never claimed that-only claimed ignorance....did have a couple of posts deleted defending mb's right to post........also don't recall anyone calling me out, to paraphrase Paul, data -based theories are easy to explain...

juvenal
juvenal

then would make more sense to delete his own posts.........

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @juvenal  Interestingly, though, the only posts that were deleted were Gt79's.  By your logic, he should be spamming some of his own, and ours, as well.....


Whereas, whenever our posts go missing, I can call you out and all of a sudden you jump on the blogs to claim innocence....

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning  "I would LOVE to know how you quantified that.   Elaborate, please

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Based on how many big time recruits leave the Metro Area and play for UGA's RIVALS."

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In 2014, 50 of Texas' top 100 recruits committed to Out of State Universities.  This, in spite of the fact that Texas has 5 BCS level football programs.  (Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, TCU and Baylor)  Add in SMU and Houston and I'd dare say, based on your completely asinine made up metric, Art Briles is just an ok recruiter.


Please try and use facts.  It would prevent so much stupid on your part....


For the record, Baylor got 7 of Texas' top 100.  GT got 7 of Georgia's top 75.  Apparently CPJ can out recruit Art Briles....

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@MikeBanning

Successful 2 minute drill one time in 4 years?  Did you watch any GT FB last year?  What do you think happened before the half against Duke and Clemson?

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

@MikeBanning

and surreptitiously added a CATALOG of jock courses which they quickly pulled from "the shelves" when they were outted for it by an OFFICIAL STUDENT PUBLICATION

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@MikeBanning

Imagine how well Art Briles would recruit in the Metro Atlanta Area?

Texas has a much stronger influence among recruits in Texas than does UGA in the Metro Atlanta Area.

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Let me see - Texas has more HS school talent than GA.  UT can only recruit 25 of them a year - meaning there is even more available in Texas than in GA .  Baylor doesn't get good classes.

How would Briles do in Metro Atlanta?  Classes in the 40's and 50's I'd imagine

BleedingGold
BleedingGold

wienie, we've talked about this.  Both or either Duke or UNC have outperformed both or either Miami or VT.  That being so, it's the BIG 6. 

GTBob
GTBob

@MikeBanning Art Briles recruiting rankings at Baylor: 51st, 55th, 39th, 46th, 45th, 31st, and 35th.

I'm sure if he were at Tech though he would have top 10 classes every year.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@GeorgeStein

re:

I would LOVE to know how you quantified that.   Elaborate, please

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Based on how many big time recruits leave the Metro Area and play for UGA's RIVALS.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@GTBob

Imagine how well Art Briles would recruit in the Metro Atlanta Area?

Texas has a much stronger influence among recruits in Texas than does UGA in the Metro Atlanta Area.

GTBob
GTBob

@GeorgeStein The 2010 team had mostly Chan recruits on the 2 deep as well. CPJ is apparently 0-3 against UGA.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@GeorgeStein

Okie State is NOT located in Texas!

Beating Texas will do wonders for Baylor's Recruiting!

GTBob
GTBob

@MikeBanning  Baylor is 4-18 against ranked teams since their mystical magical coach took over. They have their share of issues against good teams as well.

GeorgeStein
GeorgeStein

@MikeBanning  What happened when they played Oklahoma State or the bowl game?   Clearly Art Briles gimmicky high school offense (literally, it's a high school offense) has been figured out.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@GeorgeStein

Baylor opened up  can of whip-@$$ on their big in-state rival team (Texas) when they were down, meanwhile when UGA was down we lost to them twice (Caleb King, the "we run this state game") and last season.

We lost to JOE COX for crying out loud!

GTBob
GTBob

@MikeBanning Baylor doesn't recruit all that well so im not sure they are the best example for you to use. The majority of GTs recruits had offers from other major programs. Obviously they wanted to play here.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @GTBob  "Baylor's spread passing, HUNH, shotgun offense is in no way as gimmicky as GT's run 90% of the time Service Academy Offense."

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So an offense that has been around football for decades is gimmicky, yet this concoction that only Art Brles runns at Baylor isn't?


Only a troll with an agenda would be stupid enough to make that say that..


Try again, troll.....

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@GTBob

Baylor's spread passing, HUNH, shotgun offense is in no way as gimmicky as GT's run 90% of the time Service Academy Offense.

To try and compare GT to Baylor is laughable.

Ask the Recruits which offense they'd rather play in.

GTBob
GTBob

@MikeBanning  You could easily argue that Baylor's offense right now is just as gimmicky as GTs. It's different, but just as gimmicky.

GeorgeStein
GeorgeStein

@MikeBanning I have no idea what you're even talking about now.   You're completely nonsensical. 

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@GeorgeStein

They stayed the course and didn't try and bring in a gimmicky Service Academy offense that very few recruits want to play in.

They stayed the course with their commitment to "Big-Time CFB".

GeorgeStein
GeorgeStein

@MikeBanning Wait, Baylor and Stanford stayed the course and you're arguing FOR Johnson's termination?

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @AugustaJacket

"Even if the offense goes on a 34 minute dry spell allowing a flawed opponent to force OT?

You still think the Off. isn't the problem."

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What 34 minute dry spell?


GT put up 14 points and 21 yards in the second half and overtime.  Also, a missed field goal in the second half that could have been the difference.


 Defense was the issue.  Lack of depth due to injuries and scheme change.  When the O puts up 495 yards it has done it's job.


#keeptrolling

GTBob
GTBob

@MikeBanning It's not if the offense scores plenty of points before that. You have way too much criteria for judging anything.

- The first two years CPJ was here don't count. 

- Points against teams we beat don't count.
- Points scored in the first half against teams we don't beat don't count.
- Points scored near the end of the game don't count.
- Points scored in OT don't count.

Seems a little silly but maybe that is just me.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@AugustaJacket

re:

All of our points were scored on the first string D.  Quit trying to deflect.  When you can put up 30+ points and 495 yards in a game, the offense isn't the problem.

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Even if the offense goes on a 34 minute dry spell allowing a flawed opponent to force OT?

You still think the Off. isn't the problem.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@GTBob

In modern-day CFB with HUNH offenses causing more total plays from scrimmage in each game, scoring in the mid-20s is no great feat.

Scoring in the mid-20s was a great feat 25-30 years ago, not so much in 2013 and beyond.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @AugustaJacket  All of our points were scored on the first string D.  Quit trying to deflect.  When you can put up 30+ points and 495 yards in a game, the offense isn't the problem.


#keeptrolling

GTBob
GTBob

@MikeBanning We only had 4 drives in the 2nd half against UGA. A long TD drive, a missed FG, a bad interception, and a 40 yard drive that ended in a punt. That isn't poor offensive production. Our problem was that we couldn't get their offense off the field.

GTBob
GTBob

@MikeBanning Ok, lets modify it then to meet your moving goal posts. Ill be considerate and take a TD away in the Miami and Clemson games. UGA-27, Miami-24, Clemson-24. Oh the horror of only scoring that much against the supposed best teams we play.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@AugustaJacket

Vs. UGA we scored only 7 points in the final 34 minutes of regulation to allow UGA to force OT to begin with, that is clearly an Offensive issue.

Did you go to the UGA game or watch the game at all?

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @GTBob  uga's first team D was on the field the whole time. 


If you want to discount scoring for our O, then you need to discount the points our D surrendered in "garbage time" when we are talking defense.


#keeptrolling

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@GTBob

OT vs. UGA, garbage time vs. Clemson and Miami.

Are you sure you wanna hang your hat on us scoring 30 points in those 3 games as proof that this gimmicky offense works vs. the Big Boys?

GTBob
GTBob

@MikeBanning  Our offense scored over 30 points against 3 of the 4 magical made up big 4 this year. VT had a good game plan and shut us down. They also shut Alabama down. Im still waiting for someone to tell Alabama to abandon their offense that obviously doesn't work.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@AugustaJacket

So you are satisfied with GT FB running a successful 2-minute Offense ONE TIME in the last 4 years?

Wow!

I had no idea that CPJ had lowered the expectations and standards among the GT fanbase that much!

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning  "Year 7  and we still cannot run a 2-minute offense."

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Tevin Washington ran it very effectively against VT in 2012.  It was the 0:44 second defense that sunk us.


#keeptrolling

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@GTBob

Year 7  and we still cannot run a 2-minute offense.

1-15 vs. the Big-4 and 1-3 in Bowl Games, a 2-18 record in our toughest games over a 4 year stretch.

2-18 equals a .100 winning percentage.

Our so-called great offense is getting fat vs weak competition and in games vs. the Big-4 +Bowls, we basically have a 10 percent chance to win.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @AugustaJacket  "The thing that those 2 schools did is they  "stayed the course" and didn't give in to some one-dimensional gimmicky offense."

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False.  Stanford committed to spending big time money on assistant coaches with a track record in recruiting.  


When USC gets back to full strength let's see if Stanford remains a top PAC-12 school.  


As for Baylor, they have had 4 consecutive winning seasons.  Prior to that, their last winning season was in 1995.  In what has been a very underwhelming Big-12 conference, let's see how Baylor continues before we jump to conclusions.


Now, can you tell me how many of Stanford's recruits came from Georgia?  How about Baylor's?  Answer:  very few.  (single digits)

GTBob
GTBob

@MikeBanning  How many of those great recruits were we getting before CPJ got here? Also, if the offense is performing much better than it did when we were running a pro style set then do we really need those talented recruits? Is a worse offense with supposedly better players a better situation than a better offense with supposedly worse players?

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@AugustaJacket

Those recruits weren't going to Stanford & Baylor until they hired the "right" HC, and then all of  sudden they were going to those schools.

The thing that those 2 schools did is they  "stayed the course" and didn't give in to some one-dimensional gimmicky offense.

GT has trouble with one mediocre pro-style HC, that could not  recruit a better QB than RB to save his life and then DRad goes in the complete opposite direction and brings in a Service Academy offense despite being surrounded by the 4th best HS Talent in the entire USA.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @GTBob  This is the most honest thing you might have ever posted.  The issue is that those recruits weren't coming to GT when we weren't running the option, so there was really no loss.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@GTBob

Watching the Triple-OPtion bothers me to the extent that I know there are a fair number of talented recruits that can graduate from GT, that absolutely hate that offense and quickly eliminate GT from consideration before they even send us a transcript.

That is the main reason I hate watching GT run that gimmicky, crappy offense!

Birmingham__Jacket
Birmingham__Jacket

It's like the knuckleball in baseball, or Al Czervik at Bushwood... It just doesn't "belong".