Posted: 7:35 pm Wednesday, May 14th, 2014

Tech denies Georgia’s request to contact Carter 

By Ken Sugiura

Applying what he called “pretty standard industry-wide practice,” Georgia Tech athletic director Mike Bobinski upheld the school’s restriction to not let Georgia contact basketball player Robert Carter, who is transferring from the Yellow Jackets team after two seasons.

“Our practice has typically been to (not grant permission) to the ACC schools and anybody you play in a given sport every year,” he said. “We play Georgia every year. This is not something which is so much a Georgia thing as it is we compete against them every year. That’s a pretty standard industry-wide practice.”

In his transfer, Carter was restricted from transferring either to Georgia or another ACC school. Given that he would have to sit out two years if he were to transfer to another ACC team, it’s essentially a restriction against Georgia.

Still, Bobinski said, the policy is not airtight. If an athlete were transferring due to a coaching change or if there were extenuating circumstances such as a family situation, the school would be willing to adjust the restriction list. However, “none of that applies in this case,” Bobinski said.

That is why he didn’t see Georgia’s 2009 release of Daniel Miller from his letter of intent in order to play at Tech as comparable. Miller left Georgia due to a coaching change, Dennis Felton’s firing, and had yet to play.

“It’s a completely different deal,” Bobinski said. “Robert’s been a big part of our program for two years.”

Further, it is an appealable situation if Carter were interested in transferring either to Georgia or another ACC school.

“If Robert had an issue with it, he could come to us,” Bobinski said. “We’ve not heard from Robert.”

Georgia’s policy is to not place restrictions on athletes seeking to transfer.

“The University of Georgia doesn’t restrict a student-athlete from any school that is seeking a transfer,” athletic director Greg McGarity said. “The student-athlete’s best interest is at the forefront of our program. If they’re not happy here we’re not going to dictate where they can and can’t go.”

Bobinski had no issue with the request or his conversation with McGarity. He called McGarity a professional for whom he has a lot of respect.

“In this case, we’re going to disagree on how things are handled,” he said. “That’s fine. Sometimes that happens.”

For the Georgia perspective, read Chip Towers’ post on the Georgia blog.

49 comments
Realisticfan
Realisticfan

Its their policy so lets move on. I assume he could not transfer to West Carolina, Kennesaw St or Mercer or Ga St,  all teams which Tech plays each year.  He did not choolse Ga the first go round and probably wouldn't the second time. So move on.

foxdog
foxdog

Tech was once a pretty proud athletic program (years ago). They are becoming more chicken schist everyday...

BigIrishMike
BigIrishMike

Maybe just maybe if UGA had a policy they would not have to face former players. This good guy policy just doesn't get it. Nice guys finish where? Who is to say that tampering isn't involved here. Tech's policy here is much smarter than UGA's in this case. 

And this is about basketball why are Dawg fans prentending to care? This player moving from GT is going to hurt Tech more than help UGA if he lands there. I think he will stay and go to Ga State he can really help them.

Radar123
Radar123

Georgia fans are just worried he will end up at Auburn.

Not looking forward I suspect of playing their ex-cornerback turned top SEC QB again either.

juvenal
juvenal

if it's not a contract, what is it?   certainly acts like a pre-nup, welcome to Big Boy World, rules & all...........

starter
starter

Carter is not a great player. NBA potential? Not likely. May play some "pro" ball in someplace like Korea or Latvia.  He will probably transfer to someplace like Kennesaw State or maybe GA State. GT is going to be bad with or without him, so to quote the brilliant Hillary Clinton when she spoke of 4 dead Americans, "  at this point, what difference does it really make?".

Iluvnutella
Iluvnutella

He's startin Auburn in the fall.....War Damn Eagle!

Jim70
Jim70

Let him go wherever he wants.  no big deal playing one game with uga ever year.  also any acc team.

Top Row Dawg
Top Row Dawg

Petty policy. Shows true colors of school.....yellow.

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

When Golden transferred in last year, didn't he have to get a hardship waiver in order to play immediately?  If so then Tech and the ACC are not the only ones who do that. 

charlestonian77
charlestonian77

imo i think that it amounted to a difference in how rc wanted to be used.

with the graduation of miller i think that coach said "ok enough with the 3 pointers and roaming the perimeter.  that experiment was a miserable  failure.  we need you to play a your  position in a way that helps the team.  we need you to play close to the basket.

YOU ARE NOT MAGIC JOHNSON OR LARRY BIRD. 

i think that the new coach emphasized that thought. so carter walked.

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

The way i see it we saved him a lot of misery.

GTBob
GTBob

Maybe im a jerk in this one but I couldn't care less about whats best for the student athlete in this case. This is a team we play every year, and an instate rival. Screw them. I see no reason we should voluntarily help their team when we can do otherwise. We have coached, trained and nurtured this kid for years now. I see no reason to send him off to a rival so they can beat us. Kudos to Bobinski in this case. If they want to change the NCAA rule on this then fine. I would probably be in favor of it. Until then nada. I would love to see what the attitude would have been if Caldwell-Pope wanted to transfer to Tech after two years at UGA.

BleedingGold
BleedingGold

I think it would be more helpful if we knew exactly why Carter was transferring..  The only reason I can think of is that he wants to play for a better team.  I mean can there be another reason?  He's only going to put up better numbers next year.  He's already regarded as one of the better rebounders in the ACC.  Gregory gives him good minutes and he made a great transition from his Freshman to Sophomore year.  He even made the Dean's list.  Does he want to shoot more threes?

It would probably be better if Robert just went in and had a meeting with Gregory and Bobinski.  It sounds like he's trying to just avoid talking to them and that's only going to make things worse. 

theoriginaltruth
theoriginaltruth

Tech is displaying a selfish controlling side that ignores what is good for the player, unlike UGA and Mark Richt's policy of allowing any player to leave and play immediately.


I grew up a Tech fan (Dad went to Tech in the 30's) and I went to UGA, so have some allegiance to oth schools. i so admire Richt for his unselfish policy to let the kids go where they want and to not choose to control these kids...........


Makes me less than proud of Tech.........booooooooo Tech

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

I never thought I would disagree with GeorgeStein, but on this one I do.  What MBob is doing is apparently done by every other ACC school, plus, I assume, many throughout the nation.  As long as it's done elsewhere, I see no problem with Tech doing it too.

Birmingham__Jacket
Birmingham__Jacket

I don't agree with paying athletes to play college sports. College athletes are amateurs, and are INDIRECTLY compensated with scholarships. They pay no taxes for their education.

Had Carter entered a financial contract with Tech to play basketball, received money to play for Tech, and Tech paid taxes on his behalf, I could see why GT might feel some control over the player.

But as amateurs, college athletes shouldn't be held to any formal or informal policies restricting who they can talk to or play for.

In my opinion, amateurs by virtue of being non-salaried and non-employees, should be free to talk to and go play for whoever they want should they find that their current situation is not meeting their needs.

I don't like the idea of his playing against us. And I regret that GT did not meet his needs. But IMO, if he wants to go play for UGA, Duke or whoever, that should be his right to do so.

It's not just all about the college's best interests. The kids best interests should be considered also.

DallasJack
DallasJack

GeorgeStein

27 minutes ago

They should let him talk to any school he chooses. I disagree with Tech's handling of the situation.


+1

GeorgeStein
GeorgeStein

They should let him talk to any school he chooses. I disagree with Tech's handling of the situation.

RBR
RBR

I agree with Bobinski... I wouldn't want any of our key players transferring to our rival school either.  Carter represented Tech well and I wish him the best....just not at UGA or any other ACC school.



Yellerbug
Yellerbug

Good luck to Carter. I hate to see him go and wonder why he's leaving.  I agree with our policy and I think MBob explained it successfully. CBG has another tough year ahead---we need to learn how to fast break after our opponents score as we have no inside game nor rebounding. Maybe we can get a 3-point specialist.

JonesboroJacket
JonesboroJacket

There has to be more about this.  He played well and exposure in the ACC would help him.  But, these are still 20 something year olds that see things differently. Nothing negative wish him the best- just maybe not against our own team.

TechTroll13
TechTroll13

Of those teams "Tech plays each year", Tech only played Kennesaw St and that was the first time under Gregory.  But this is a blog, so who needs facts.

BleedingGold
BleedingGold

@SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

Golden's case is that he had an ill family member if I'm not mistaken.  Considering his reason for transfer was to be closer to this relative, the NCAA saw this as a viable reason for transfer that did wasn't all about athletics.  Same thing happened with Tashard Choice when he transferred from Oklahoma to Tech.  Don't see this being the same case for Carter.  This seems to be a move based on athletics.

yelojaket
yelojaket

@charlestonian77    At this point we can only guess as to RC's reason for transfer....that being said, that's a darn good guess!

Radar123
Radar123

@GTBob  

Agreed.

Plus Dawg AD does not have to worry about too many Uga players who choose their easy program of studies wanting to transfer to Tech.

Miller and Dewsberry the exceptions to the rule.

GTMan1949
GTMan1949

 GTBob, For once we totally agree.

GTMan1949
GTMan1949

Bleeding Gold, I agree, Carter wants to go to a winning team, it'll never happen with Gregory, he just is not an ACC coach.

Radar123
Radar123

@theoriginaltruth  

The original truth is you dislike Tech to start with.

Otherwise you would not bother to opine on this meaningless issue.

GTMan1949
GTMan1949

 Richt knows he can replace his transfers with stars.

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

@theoriginaltruth  

It's an ACC policy, so MBob is not just doing it out of selfishness.  The fact that Georgia is not in the ACC is a moot point, since we play them with the same frequency we play most ACC teams.

GeorgeStein
GeorgeStein

@SupersizeThatOrder-mutt  I'm uncomfortable using other's actions as a rationale for our own.   We have higher academic standards than just about every school, too, and I wouldn't advocate lowering them simply because almost every school we recruit against has lower standards.   I guess I'd rather lose doing things the harder but right way than win doing things I think are wrong or by cutting corners. 

Caius
Caius

@Birmingham__Jacket  

The NLRB is now deciding whether student athletes are employees or not. I believe             Northwestern has to show cause.


The door is open not shut.

twelveofthirteen
twelveofthirteen

@GeorgeStein My guess is that Robert has no interest in UGA. If he is leaving Tech to play on a better team UGA isn't the answer However, he should be able to go play anywhere that wants him and that he wants to go to.


Bobinski-pooh missed the boat on this one. Just a kid with his entire life ahead of him. Shame on tech for interfering.


Shame on GTBob for agreeing with it and supporting this. Messing with his life.

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@GeorgeStein

Assuming there has been no "tampering", all transfers should be able to talk to any school they choose.

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@JonesboroJacket

Something is strange here.  Carter has NBA potential (doesn't mean he will make it) - transferring after 2 years in a program and having to sit out is unusual for those kinds of players.  It is not as if he wasn't going to get PT

juvenal
juvenal

top 10 in APR, grads in top 10 payscale.com, which matters if you get a real degree like the other students, have not $old out to be fodder/filler for $port$ media......very proud not to be like ugha........i don't post on the dark side, & have enough reality to ignore wanna be extended playground bullies, what part of THWG do you not get?

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

@BleedingGold @SupersizeThatOrder-mutt  

Yeah, that's what I am saying.  RC, I assume, would have to sit out a year no matter what Div-1 school he chooses to go to unless he has a hardship, which apparently he doesn't.  So I don't see the big deal about MBob not letting him talk to other ACC schools or Georgia

GeorgeStein
GeorgeStein

@twelveofthirteen Eh, I'm not sure I'd say shame on anyone for agreeing with the decision.   Certainly reasonable people can disagree.   But, in general, it seems petty to me.   And if he doesn't want to go to UGA (and let's be honest, who would!) then all the more reason not to place restrictions on him.

SiddyBoy17
SiddyBoy17

@GTMan1949  All the thugs aren't in jail. Some roam the halls of the GT Athletic Department.Just another reason to hate Tech;an ACC wannabe !!!

GTMan1949
GTMan1949

 The only difference between Richt and Fox is that Fox didn't have to visit the Athens jail to visit his players